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مکرم ومحترم ، زید مجدکم السلام علیکم ورحمتہ اللہ وبرکاتہ
یہ خط ایک  عام مسلمان کی طرف سے ہزاروں علمائے امت  ،زعمائے امت ، سربراہان ملت اورتمام مسلمانوں کے نام   ایک فتنے اور خلفشار سے بچانےکے لئے  ایک مؤدبانہ درخواست کے طور پر لکھا جا رہا ہے  ،۔آپ حضرات تعلیم  وتدریس ، دعوت وتبلیغ  ، اصلاح و تزکیہ  ، ،تصنیف، فلاحی وسماجی خدمات جیسے  مختلف شعبوں میں لگ کرامتِ مسلمہ اور انسانیت کو نفع پہنچا رہے ہیں ،اللہ آپ سب کو قبول فرمائے،اور آپ لوگوں سے امت کو مستفید فرمائے
               فقہ  کا اختلاف  علماء کرام کے بیچ   ایک خالص علمی واجتہادی مسئلہ ہے جو امت کے تاریخ کے ساتھ ہی جڑا ہوا ہے  ۔ اگر قرآن پر مجتمع رہتے ہوئے اور حضو راکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی تشریح وتفصیل کوقبول کرتے ہوئے اپنی علمی   و اجتہادی استعداد اور دماغی حیثیتوں کی بناء پر فروع میں اختلاف کیا جائے تو یہ اختلاف فطری ہے ۔ اور اسلام اس سے منع نہیں کرتا۔ صحابہ وتابعین اور ائمہ فقہاء کا اختلاف اسی قسم کا تھا،  ہاں اگر انہی فروعی بحثوں کو اصل دین قرار دیا جائے اور ان میں اختلاف کو جنگ وجدال اور سب وشتم کا ذریعہ بنالیا جائے تو یہ بھی مذموم ہے ۔
موجودہ صورت حال اور ایک نیا سانحہ
لیکن یہ خالص علمی واجتہادی مسئلہ  جو سلف  والصالحین  کے اخلاص کے وجہ سے کبھی امت کے افتراق اور انتشار کا سبب نہیں بناآج ایک فتنہ کی شکل اختیار کر رہا ہے ،جو کسی سے بھی چھپا نہیں ہے ۔
اس  سلسلے میں ایک نیا سانحہ یہ جڑ گیا ہے  کہ عام مسلمانوں کے وہ تعداد جو صرف دنیوی علم حا صل کیئے ہوئے ہیں  انٹرنیٹ /یوٹیوب /فیسبک /کے ذریعہ سے   اس مسئلے میں داخل ہو رہے ہیں اس میں  امت کے ڈاکٹر،انجینئر،  اور اسکے علاوہ وہ تمام لوگ شامل ہیں جو لکھنا پڑھنا جانتے ہیں ۔
یہ اختلافی موضوعات جو مدرسے کی چہار دیواری اور کتابوں میں قرآن و سنت کے دلیلوں کے ساتھ ہوتا ہے جب کچھ لوگ عوام کے بیچ لیکر آجاتے ہیں تو اس میں اتنے  عنصر شامل ہو جاتے ہیں  کہ علم کی صاف شفاف ندی ایک گندے نالے میں تبدیل ہو جاتی ہے  جیسے کہ  جمنا ندی کا حال دلّی میں ہے  ۔جسکی وجہ کر عوام کی ایک تعداد اس گندگی میں الجھ گئی ہے  جو بحث و مباحثہ تکرار سے بڑھ کر لڑائی جھگڑا  کی نوبت تک آگیا ہے پچھلے سال ہمارے آبائی وطن کے قریب گاؤں میں پولیس بھی آگئی تھی اور ایک غیر مسلم حکومتی افسر  مسلمانوں کے خالص دینی علمی مسئلہ کے حل کرنے کا ثالث بنا  ۔
اس سے پہلے کہ اس مسئلہ کے حل کے لیئے کچھ اقدام کریں  چند باتوں کا سمجھنا ضروری ہے۔
ایسے تو ہندستان میں مسلمانوں کے دو بڑے گرو ہیں1۔ اہل حدیث مکتبہ فکر جو فقہ میں کسی امام کی تقلیدنہیں کرتے ،   2۔حنفی حضرات جو فقہ میں  امام ابو حنیفہ  اور انکے مکتبہ فکر کی تحقیق کی تقلید کرتے ہیں ۔حنفی حضرات میں  پھر دو گرو ہ ہیں ۔بریلوی مکتبہ فکر اور  دیوبندی مکتبہ فکر  لیکن عوام کی بحثوں میں عام طور پر بریلوی ۔دیوبندی حضرات کے مدعے زیرِ بحث نہیں ہوتے خاص کر پڑھے لکھے طبقے میں باالکل نہیں  ۔کیونکہ یہ الزامی اور التزامی نوعیت کے ہیں  ۔
              لہٰذا عوام کے بیچ کی ساری بحث  جس میں کچھ اصول کی بات ہوتی ہے اہلِ حدیث  اور حنفی حضرات کے بیچ ہے-حالانکہ ان دونوں میں سے ایک گرو زیادہ متشدد ہے اور عوام کے بیچ اسی نے اس مسئلہ کو لانے کی شروعات کی ہے   ،اور اس تکرار کی شروعاتی دور میں اب سے   5-10 سال پہلےتک حاوی تھا  اور یہ ایک طرفہ معاملہ تھا    ،لیکن اب دوسرا گرو بھی ہم کسی سے کم نہیں کے انداز میں زبردست مقابلہ کر رہا ہے ۔
1                           1۔عوام کے بیچ اس پورےبحث مباحثہ میں کوئی مستند اور بڑے عالم یا کوئی بڑا مدرسہ شامل نہیں ہےمیں نے کبھی نہیں سنا کہ جمیعت اہلِ حدیث کے صدر  یا جامعہ سلفیہ کے محدث دیوبند یا ندوۃالعلماء کے مہتمم یا محدث سے کسی اختلافی مسئلہ پر عوام میں بحث کر رہے ہیں ۔حتیٰ کہ حنفی اور اہلِ حدیث مدرسوں کے عام استاد بھی  کبھی ایک دوسرے کے خلاف عوامی سطح پر بحث مباحثہ یا سب و شتم کرتے ہوئے نظر نہیں آتے ۔بلکہ اکثر اہل علم اپنے اپنے شعبوں اور خدمات میں اتنے مشغول ہیں  کہ انہیں  حالات کی سنگینی کا علم بھی نہیں ہے  ،یہ اپنے آپ میں ایک فکر کی چیز ہے  کہ بڑے علماء کا عوام سے براہ ِراست رابطہ کتنا ہے اور اس سلسلے کو  کس طرح مزید بہتر کرنے کی ضرورت ہے ۔
2                           2۔عوام کے بیچ اس مسئلہ کے لانے والے لوگوں میں مدرسوں سے پڑھے ہوئے کچھ متوسط علم وفہم کے لوگ ہیں  جن میں اکثر علم کا فقدان اور   مزاج کی سختی کا مجموعہ ہیں۔ اس کے علاوہ کچھ عالم نما لوگ ہیں جو عربی تک نہیں جانتے  لیکن اپنے کو محقق اور مجتہد کے طور پر پییش کرتے  ہیں ۔جو مقررحضرات عوام کی سطح پر ان موضوعات پر انکی ذہن سازی کرتے ہیں  یا دوسرے گرو ہ کو ڈائریکٹ یا ان ڈائریکٹ حملہ کرتے ہیں ،   ان کا تعلق انٹرنیٹ ویب سا ئٹ،/یوٹیوب/فیس بک/ٹی وی چینل /بلاگس/چھوٹی چھوٹی کتابیں /پمفلیٹ/کے ذریعہ سیدھے عوام سے  رابطہ ہوتا ہے۔ بڑے علماء کرام اور  مدرسوں کے محدثین کا عوام سے تعلق نہیں کے برابر ہے  اس کا فائدہ ان لوگوں نے اٹھایا ہے۔
ان حضرات کی اپنی بات کو وزن دینے اور دوسرے کو  زِیر کر نے کی حکمت عملی
عوام کو اپنی طرف مائل کرنےاور جذبات کو ابھارنےکےلئےلوگ چندحکمت عملی کااستعمال  کرتے ہیں۔
(یہاں پر جو مثالیں لکھی جا رہی ہیں  یہ صرف سمجھانے کے لیئے ہے  ۔ کسی ایک گروہ  پر الزام نہیں ہے حقیقتاً دونوں گروہ کے متشدد لوگ اس میں شامل ہیں کسی مسئلہ میں   ایک گروہ ظلم کرتا ہے دوسرا مظلوم ہوتا ہے  ۔پھر کبھی دوسرا ظلم کرتا ہے اور پہلا مظلوم ہوتا ہے ۔ یہ وقت اور حالات کے اعتبار سے بدلتا رہتا ہے ۔)    
حکمت عملی نمبر 1 عوام کو کچھ لوگ اپنے تقریر /کتابیں /انٹرنیٹ /ٹی وی چینل کے ذریعے سے یہ بتاتے ہیں کہ جو ہمارا طریقہ ہے وہی صحیح ہے۔ اور باقی غلط ہیں۔ یا  ۔۔۔۔ہمارا زیادہ صحیح ہے یا ۔۔۔۔ہم لوگ صحیح حدیث پر عمل کرتے ہیں اور باقی لوگ ضعیف حدیث پر عمل کرتے ہیں ، وغیرہ وغیرہ ۔
مثال  ۔ نماز میں ہاتھ رکھنے کا مسئلہ   ایک گروپ کے لوگ عوام کو یہ کہتے ہیں کہ ہاتھ کو سینے  پر  رکھنا چاہئے  کیونکہ صحیح حدیث سے ایسا ہی ثابت ہے  اور زیادہ صحیح ہے ۔سینے کے نیچے یا ناف کے نیچے ہاتھ رکھنے کی حدیث ضعیف ہے ۔ بعض متشدد لوگ تو آسانی کے ساتھ سمجھانے کی کوشش کرتے ہیں کہ سینے پر ہاتھ رکھنا  صحیح حدیث سے ثابت ہے ۔اور ناف کے نیچے رکھنا امام کی رائے ہے۔حالانکہ جب ہم سلف الصالحین علماء کی کتابوں سے رجوع کرتے ہیں  جیسےامام ابن قییم ؒ کی مشہور کتاب "زاد المعاد" جسے محمد بن عبدالوہاب ؒ نے تلخیص کی ہے ۔جسے سعودی عرب کے مذہبی امور اور دعوت کے شعبے نے شائع کیا ہے- اسکا عنوان ہے ۔آں حضرت  ﷺ کی نماز کا طریقہ (زاد المعاداردو ترجمہ   صفحہ نمبر 28 لائن 5-9)
"دونوں انگلیوں کو پھیلا کر انکو قبلی کی طرف کر کے کان کی لو یا مونڈھے تک اٹھاتے تھے ،پھردائیں ہاتھ کو بائیں ہاتھ کی کلائی اور بازو پر رکھتے تھے۔دونوں ہاتھ کو رکھنے کی جگہ کے بارے میں کوئی صحیح روایت ثابت نہیں ہے لیکن ابو داؤد نے حضرت علیؒ سے روایت کیا ہے کہ سنّت یہ  ہے کہ ہتھیلی کو ہتھیلی پر  ناف کے نیچے باندھا جائے"
 حکمت عملی نمبر 2 عوام کو ایک صحیح حدیث پیش کی جاتی ہے اور یہ بتایا جاتا ہے کہ صرف یہی حضور پاک ﷺ کا طریقہ ہے ۔اور اس بات کو چھپا لیا جاتاہے  کہ اس عمل کی تفصیل کے لیئے دوسری صحیح حدیث بھی موجود ہے ۔ دوسرے لفظوں میں  عوام سے یہ چھپا لیا جاتا ہے کہ ایک عمل کے کرنے کے صحیح حدیث کی بنیاد پر ایک سے زیادہ طریقے ہو سکتے ہیں۔
1          حکمت عملی نمبر 3 بعض  نا سمجھ انٹر نیٹ پرتو گالی گلوج پر اتر آتے ہیں  -مثال کے طور پر  ----- حنفی لوگ امام ابو حنیفہ کے دین پر چلتے ہیں نہ کہ حضرت محمد ؐ کے دین پر ۔،غیر مقلد  ملکہ ویکٹوریہ کی اولاد ہیں ،غیر مقلد  کو انگریزوں نے کھڑا کیا ہے تاکہ مسلمانوں کو نقصان پہنچا یا جائے، امام ابو حنیفہ کو صرف 17 حدیثیں یاد تھیں ،حنفی مسلک  قرآن و حدیث کے خلاف ہے ،فقہ نام کی کوئی چیز نہیں ہے ،فقہ قرآن و حدیث کے خلاف ایک نظام ہے ،  تقلید شرک ہے،۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔جاہل بد دماغ  کور مغز ملّا  ،تبلچی  ملّے ،بد باطل  وغیرہ وغیرہ ۔(یہ الفاظ دینی تقاریر سے ماخوذ ہیں)
2                          3۔جو لوگ  انٹرنیٹ،/یوٹیوب/فیس بک/ٹی وی چینل پر ا ن موضوعات پر تقریر کرتے ہیں  ان کی علمی حیثیت کے علاوہ ،الفاظ کا تشدد، اپنے مسلک کی عصبیت،  اپنے گروہ کو مضبوط کرنے کی فکر، عوام کو اپنے طرف مائل کرنے کی فکر حالات کو سنگین بنادیتے ہیں ۔یہ حضرات ایک دوسرے گروہ کے لیئے جن الفاظ و لہجہ اور دلائل کا استعمال کرتے ہیں اس سے عوام میں یہ تاثر جاتا ہے کہ دوسرا گروہ اسلام کا اور قرآن و حدیث کا  مخالف ہے ۔اور منافقت میں صرف اسلام کا نام لیتا ہے ۔جسکی وجہ کر عوام اسے کفر اور اسلام کا معارکہ سمجھ کر  اپنے اسلام پسندی کا ثبوت دیتے ہیں ۔
عوام میں کچھ ذہنی طور پر دیندار لوگ ہیں  جو ان بحث مباحثہ کو عین اسلام  اور  کفر و ایمان کا معارکہ سمجھتے ہیں ،جسکی وجہ کر ان مقرر حضرات کی  خوب پذیرائی کرتے ہیں  اور جہاں مدرسوں میں پڑھانے والے عالم کو یا مسجد کے امام حضرات کو 5-10 ہزار مشکل سے ملتا ھے  یہ مقرر حضرات اچھا پیسہ کماتے ہیں   ان میں  کئی کی اپنی ویب سا ئٹ /یوٹیوب چینل وغیرہ    ہیں اور ایک فعال ٹیم ہے جو  ان سب کا نظام دیکھتی ہے۔ بعض تو صرف ہوائی جہاز سے سفر کی شرط پر  پروگرام کا وقت  دیتے ہیں ۔
              4۔حالاں کہ صرف 1-2فیصد عام مسلمان ان معاملات میں شامل ہیں ،لیکن  چوں کہ 90 فیصد  مسلمان کو دین سے کم دلچسپی ہے۔لہٰذا    باقی بچے دس فیصد جو ذہنی طور  پر دیندار سمجھے جاتے ہیں ان میں یہ ایک دو فیصد   تعداد کے اعتبار سے ورغلانے یا خاندان یا محلے کا ماحول خراب کرنے کے لیئے کافی ہوتی ہے ۔
عملی اقدام کے لیئے تجاویز
         1۔ تنظیموں اور مدرسوں کے ذمہ داران ایک  جگہ بیٹھ کر امت کے اجتماعی مسئٰلہ کے بارے میں غور فکر کریں  کہ     علمی اور اجتہادی بحث اہل علم کے بیچ رہے ۔ اور غیر استعداد لوگوں کے بیچ آکر گروہی  شدت پسندی ،تعصب،سب و شتم  کا شکار نہ ہو  ۔ (ان اداروں پر خاص ذمہ داری ہے چونکہ عوام میں اچھی پہچان ہے  جیسےآل انڈیا مسلم پرسنل لا بوڑد ، دارالعلوم دیوبند ،سہارنپور ، جامعہ سلفیہ ، جامعہ عمراباد ،ندوہ،مدرسہ اشرفیہ ،جامعتہ الفلاح ، جمیعتہ اہلِ حدیث، جمیعت علماء ہند ، جماعت اسلامی وغیرہ وغیرہ ۔یہاں نام  صرف مثال کے لیئے دیئے گئے ہیں ہر  مسلمان ،ہر مدرسہ اور ہر تنظیم کی اس سلسلے میں ذمہ داری ہے اور ذمہ داری ادا نہیں کرنے کے  بارے میں روزِِ قیامت پوچھ ہوگی  )
             2۔ اگر منا سب سمجھا جائے تو اس کی کوشش ہو  کہ مسلمانوں کے کچھ جانے پہچانے مقرر اور مصنف ہیں ان کو  ایک جگہ جمع کر کے ان سے گفت شنید اور آپس کی بات چیت کا سلسلہ شروع کیا جائے ۔انٹر نیٹ پر موجود مواد کی روشنی میں چند نا موں کی نشاندہی کی جار ہی ہے  جن کا جڑنا  اس سلسلہ کی کسی بھی کوشش کو کامیاب بنائےگی ۔یہ چند نام جو انٹر نیٹ کے حوالے سے لکھے گئے ہیں ان میں سب کی نوعیت الگ الگ ہے  اور  بظاہر اچھے لوگ ہیں       ۔اور انمیں سے کئی مفید کام کر رہے ہیں۔ یہاں یہ نام دینے کا یہ ہر گز مطلب نہیں کہ اس خط میں دیئے گئے کسی بات کے بارے میں ان پر الزام ہے ۔ یہ صرف اس لیئے دیئے گئے ہیں کہ  یہ لوگ انٹر نیٹ پر ایکٹو ہیں اورمسئلہ کے حل کے سلسلے میں مفید ہو سکتے ہیں ۔نام درج ذیل ہیں ۔
جناب معراج ربانی صاحب ،جناب انظڑ شاہ وقاسمی صاحب(بنگلور)،جناب ابو زید ضمیر صاحب (پونہ)،جناب ابو بکر غازی پوری صاحب(دیوبند)،جناب پالن حقانی صاحب، جناب ڈاکٹر ذاکر نائک صاحب (بمبئی)،جناب ساجداے قیوم  صاحب،۔جناب آر کے نور محمد صاحب (چنئی)۔
اسکے علاوہ کچھ لوگ دوسرےملکوں کے ہیں جو انٹر  نیٹ کے ذریعہ سے اس مسئلہ سے جڑے ہیں۔جن سے رابطہ کی کوشش زیادہ مشکل نہیں ہے۔جناب توصیف الرحمان صاحب،جناب الیاس گھمن صاحب،جناب طا لب الرحمن صاحب  ،جناب فیصل آزاد صاحب ،(اردو زبان ۔سبھی پاکستان کے) انگلش زبان میں جناب ممتازالحق ،جناب وقاص احمد صاحب ،اور جناب ابو موصاب واجد اککری صاحب  ۔بنگلہ زبان میں جناب مطیع الرحمان صاحب وغیرہ و  غیرہ
          3۔ مدرسوں کے نصاب میں Islamic Ethics of Disagreementاختلاف کا اسلامی ضابطہ کے عنوان سے ایک  سبجیکٹ  ہونا چاہئے  جن میں قرآن و حدیث کی روشنی میں اختلافات کی درجہ بندی  اور اس کو ڈیل کرنے کے بارے میں مواد طالب علموں کو پڑھایا جانا چاہئے ۔
           4۔مدرسوں کے نصاب میں  ایسا نظام ہونا ضروری ہے جس سےمدرسے کے فارغین  عام ،مسلمانوں کو در پیش افکاری فتنوں سے بچانے کی صلاحیت رکھتے ہوں ۔ورنہ ایسا ہوتا ہے کہ جب ایک گروہ کا شدّت پسند  اپنے  موقف کے لیئے  حدیث  پیش کرتا  ہے ۔اور دوسرے حدیثوں کو چھپا لیتا ہے ۔جس سے دوسرے گروہ کا موقف کمزور ہو جاتا ہے ۔تو مدرسے کے فارغین سے  جب عوام پوچھتی ہے تووہ تشفی بخش جواب نہیں دے پاتے ہیں ۔ اس کی وجہ ہر گز یہ نہیں ہے کہ ان میں صلاحیت نہیں ہے  بلکہ وجہ یہ ہے کہ اپنی بات کو وزن دینا اور دوسرے کو  زِیر کرنا ایک فن ہے ۔اس کا جواب وہی دے سکتا ہے جو سامنے والے کی حکمت ِ عملی سے واقف ہو ۔ اور  اس  کام کے لیئے طویل مدت درکار نہیں ہے ۔ بلکہ 15-20 دن کافی ہیں ۔چونکہ جن مسئلوں پر شدت پسند لوگ عوام کو ورغلاتے ہیں ان کی تعداد بمشکل 20-25 ہے ۔
                            5۔اس پورے مسئلہ کی  سب سے بڑی وجہ یہ ہے کہ علم کی گہرائی والے سنجیدہ مزاج اور تقوی  والے علماء کرام کا عوام سے تعلق کمزور ہے ۔ ضرورت اس بات کی ہے  کہ مدرسوں کے اساتذہ اور محدثین حضرات   عوام سے براہ راست رابطہ کریں ۔تاکہ  کم فہم اور کم صلاحیت والے لوگ اہل علم سے الگ ہو جائیں ۔اور عوام جان لے کہ فقہی و فروعی اختلاف کی نوعیت  کفرو ایمان یا صحیح یا غلط کی نہیں ہے ۔
یہ خط اس سلسلے  کی ایک چھوٹی  کوشش ہے اس پر آئے جوابات کی روشنی میں آگے کا لاہ عمل تیار کیا جائےگا ۔ آپ تمام حضرات سے گذارش ہے کہ اس سلسلےمیں اپنے مفید مشوروں سے  نوازیں  اور عام مسلمانوں کو اس فتنے اور خلفشار سے بچائیں  ۔اللہ آپ کو اس کا بہترین اجر دیگا ۔ اس کو ایک بیکار موضوع نہ سمجھیں بلکہ آپ حضرات  جو تعلیم  وتدریس ، دعوت وتبلیغ  ، اصلاح و تزکیہ  ، ،تصنیف، فلاحی وسماجی خدمات جیسے  مختلف شعبوں میں ہیں  ان سب کے بقاء کے لیئے عوام کو فتنہ اور خلفشار سے بچانا ضروری ہے۔          ۔
طالب دعاء  
ڈاکٹر سیّدابو طوبہ
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 برائے مہربانی اس  خط کو زیادہ سے زیادہ اہل علم ،علمائے امت،زعمائے امت تک پہنچا ئیں۔جزاک اللہ خیر  

Authentic Ahadith Position of Hand in Prayers Qiyam Standing

Bismillah Hirrahmanirraheem

The Position of Hands in Prayer in Qiyaam (Standing)

Upon entering a Masjid, a person sees a multitude of different people. Some of them he sees standing in prayer with
1.   Hands clasped together on the chest.
2.   Hands beneath the navel.
3.   Hands held together beneath the chest/Above Navel.

The following discussion will Present all the Ahadith and authenticity discussion and Status of Ahadith on keeping the hands in Prayer.

1.However, before all else it should be borne in mind that the debate is not regarding one method being prohibited and another Fardh. 

3 This is to teach muslims that there is difference of opinion and it is natural difference based on Ahadith. As Prophet did differently at different point of time.

2. No True Islamic scholar say that one is correct other is wrong . All true scholar are agreed that all are correct method.

(Only some you Tube sheikh/TV Scholar with little knowledge and little Taqwa for their Publicity stint tells that My method is correct other is wrong. etc) 

3.THOSE GROUP VERBAL FIGHTER ON INTERNET  WHO ARE CLAIMING THAT ONLY ABOVE CHEST/ONLY BELOW NAVEL IS CORRECT .....TRY TO DOWBGRADE OTHERS.....
4.THEY ARE INNOCENT MUSLIMS WHO ARE ACTUALLY DESTROYING ISLAM UNDER COVER OF TRUE ISLAM.

5.Dont be silent Go to house of Verbal groupism fighter in your locality with Hadith Knowledge and convince them to stop their Groupism Otherwise they will destroy the Islamic Fabric making the muslims fools.

To make the article brief we will concentrate on 1. On the chest 2. Below the Navel Position only because in Indian subcontinent Hanafis are 95% who keep below the navel and Ahle Hadith/Salafis who keep on the chest. 

Ahadith for Placing Hand on the chest

Wa’il Ibn Hujr (RA) reports,
“I performed Salaah with Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam), (in which) he placed  his right hand on the left one. upon his chest.”
(Abu Dawwod and Ibne Khuzaimah)
Authenticity discussion of this Hadith.
The report of Wa’il Ibn Hujr (RA) to be found in S’ahih-Ibn-Khuzamah  which has these  words. ‘on his chest’ is weak (Dhaeef) Hadith due to following reasons:
1. Muaminil lbn Ismail is one of narrator of this Hadith is known to be a weak narrator. lmaam Bukhari (RA) states in Al-Mizan. “His hadith are disowned.” Abu Hatim (RA) informs, ‘He made a great deal of mistakes.” Abu Zur’ah (RA) states. “His narrations contain a lot of mistakes.”
2. This same hadiih mentioned in many other books of ahadith, through various chains of narrations does not contain these  words (on the chest) in any other one of the transmissions. This indicates that the narrations which contain that statement are only narrated through Muammil Ibn Ismail, who has been proven to be dha ‘eef. Adding to this. Allamah Nimwi presents the same narration in his book through Abu Daud. Nasai and lbn Majah. It is also found in the Musnad of Abu Daud At Tayalisi. but none of them have any transmission which contains these extra words. ‘On the chest’.
Through same Wasil Ibne Hajar (R.A) this Hadith is in three books.
1.   This particular report is from S’ahih-Ibn-Khuzamah.in which on the chest mentioned.
2.   The Second version in Musnad-ul-Bazzar instead of the term. ‘upon his chest’ has the words. ‘near his chest’
3.   Third one found in Musannaf-Ibn-Abi-Shaibah contains the statement. ‘beneath the navel’.
(iii) Hafiz Ibn Hajar has confirmed in Fathul-Baari that the link of Muammil Ibn Ismail from Sufvan Thawri is weak. (1)
(iv) Sufyan Thawri (who is mentioned in the chain of transmission) held the opinion of placing the hands beneath the navel thus, when his narration is found to be on the contrary, it will not be accepted. according to the rules of jurisprudence.


Ahadith and Authenticity discussion of Below 

the Navel.
1. Wa’il Ibn Hujr (RA) narrates. “I saw Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)  placing his right hand in the left one below the navel, in prayer” (Musannaf-Ibn-Abi-Shavbah)
This is a variant version of the two ahadith mentioned above which contain the extra words. ‘below the navel’.Regarding this hadith Hanafi scholars with all fairness confess that it cannot be used as strong evidence to reinforce their view, because the extra statement (below the navel) is only to be found in some editions of Musannaf-Ibn-Abi-Shavbah and not in all of them. Also this hadith has an inconsistent text, because it also has the words. ‘upon the chest and ‘beneath the chest’ in place of ‘below the navel’ in some variant narrations which have been mentioned earlier.

2. Hadhrat Ali (RA) states, ”To place one palm over the other beneath the navel is from the sunnah of salaah.“
(Bayhaqi 312 Ibn Abi Shayhbah 391:1)
 It is a known fact that whenever a Sahaahi utters the words. ‘It is from the sunnah.’ They mean it is being directly reported from Rasoolullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) himself. However, the hadith does contain Abdur Rahman lbn Ishaaq in its chain of transmission who is classified as weak.
3.Hajjaj lbn Hassan informs, “Either I heard Abu Mijlaz saying or 1 asked him, ‘How should one place his hands (‘during salaah)?’ He replied, ‘He should place the inner portion of his right palm on the back of’ the left hand beneath the navel.
The transmission of the hadith is hasan as Allamah Al Maardini (RA) states in his book Al-.Jawharun-Naqi. But overall it is also a weak Hadith


Position of different Imams and Scholars

lmaam Abu Hanifah (RA) and Abu lshaaq Al Marwazi (RA) from the Shafi’ees assert that to tie the hands together below the navel is Sunnah.
lmam Shafi’ee’s (RA) view is to lock the hands together and hold them beneath the chest according to the books, Waseet and Kitabul-Umm (books on Shafi’ee fiqh).
As for Imaam Ahmad ibne Hanbal, he holds three different opinions: One is similar to that of lmaam Abu Hanifah (RA) – lbn Habeerah has said this to be his more popular opinion. The second opinion is the same as lmaam Shafi’ee’s (RA) view and
the third is, the Musalli has a choice between placing them beneath the navel or on the chest because both of these methods are derived from ahadith.
Allama Ibne Taimiyya R.A.
 It is from Allamah Ibn Taymiyyah’s commentary on Imam Ibn al-Qudama’s Hanbali fiqh matn entitled ‘Al-Umdah’page.67 Onwards
“And he places them both below his navel, or below his chest without either of them being disliked.
(Continued :The first [placing the hands below the navel] is superior in one of the narrations from him [Imam Ahmad], which was chosen by al-Khiraqi, al-Qadi and others.  It is reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud and al-Darqutni from Abu Juhaifah that he said:  Ali (Allah be pleased with him) said,”From the sunnah is the placing of the hand upon the other hand below the navel”.  And this [placing right hand over the left] is mentioned from the hadith of Ibn Masud from the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), and was relied upon by Imam Ahmad.
And Ibn Battah relates from Abu Hurayrah (Allah be pleased with him) that he said, “From the sunnah is that he place his right hand in the prayer below the navel”.  And a companion if he says ‘sunnah’ it is applied to the sunnah of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace).  And because this is far from the placing of hands upon the chest [takfir] which is disliked.
And in the other (narration) below the chest is superior which was chosen by a group of our companions due to that which is related by Jarir al-Dabbi who said,”I saw Ali grasping his left with his right on his wrist above his navel”, it was reported by Abu Dawud.

Ahle Hadith Scholars view is to Place on the chest.

Conclusion:

1. What people need to remember is that the Prophet,sallallahu 'alayhi wa-sallam, according to the hadith of Sahl ibn Sa'd in al-Bukhari, ordered the people to place their right hands over their left when standing in the prayer.So the important thing is that the right is over the left, as for where, then it is flexible, as al-Imam at-Tirmidhi narrated from the sahabah.

2. To conclude the whole discussion, it could be said that although, all the ahadith which are presented as evidence by each school of thought, contain some sort of weakness.

Ibne Qayyim R.A. (Student of Ibne Taimiyya R.A. has written masterpiece word in Zadul Maad that there is no authentic narration about position of placement of hand.
This also shows that Pious Ulema of Past were ready to accept the truth.But Some Scholars of Today insist that only his position is correct and rest all are wrong. May Allah save ummat from this type of Ulema/ Scholars Group mentality.Only Allah can give Hidayat.

And Allah knows the best. 

Ameen bil Jehar in Urdu Loud or Silent Hadith Hanafi Ahle Hadith salafi issue


Assalam O Alaikum,
Is Baat mein koi do Rae nahi hai ki Ameen Zor se Kahna aur Ahista Kahna dono sunnat hai. Dono Pyare Rasool sallahhau Alaihi wasallam se Sabit hai.
Yaha Masla/Problem sirf yeh hai ki Baaz log yeh kahte hain ki Sirf zor se kahna Saheeh Hai aur Ahista Kahna Ghalat Hai. 
Darj zail Mazmoon mein isi ko samjhaya gaya hai. Allah Amal ki taufeeq de.

Taken from Book Rahe E Etadal by Maulana Khalid Saifullah Rahmani Sb Hyderabad. download click the linkhttp://www.khalidrahmani.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=56&task=viewcategory&catid=16 



Differences in Prayer Men and Women Ahle Hadith Hanafi Hadith

FIQH DIFFERENCES SERIES Ahle Hadith-Hanafi  part 1

Differences in Prayer Posture between men and women

The following discussion will Present discussion and Status of Ahadith on the issue.
However, before all else it should be borne in mind that the debate is not regarding one method being prohibited and another permissible or Fardh. 

The discussion is not to establish the supremacy of one opinion over to other But to teach the muslims that there is difference of opinion and it is natural based on Ahadith.And both group has evidence from Hadith to support its position.

Hanafi Ulema are of the view that in matter of Fiqh (Jurisprudence) their are some acceptable difference of opinion between scholars.

For certain Issues there are many Ahadith narrated by Different Sahaba as they saw Prophet on different occasionon/at different point of time.


Accordingly on a Particular Issue more than one Position is obvious like Ameen Loud/Silent are Possible and correct as prophet did differently at different point of time and sahaba reported as they saw.


But the painful part is some Ghair Muqallid/Ahle Hadith brothers claim that only they are correct others as wrong.


By this way Indirectly/unknowingly they are denying some of the Ahadith of Rasulullah S.A.W. in order to prove that only they are correct. It is a grave mistake. 

Their Claim has confused some less knowlagable Muslims and they at times argue and fight without knowing the complete picture and who donot know the Ahadith refrence of Ruling by Imam Abu Haneefa R.A.It is creating conflict/debate and sometimes they abuse each other on Face book/You tube.
May Allah help the Muslim Ummah.(Ameen)
1.FIRST AHLE HADITH POSITION IN QUESTION FORM

 2. THEN ITS ANSWER AND HANAFI POSITION
taken with thank FULL FULL DETAIL REFER http://central-mosque.com/index.php/Acts-of-Worship/differences-in-salah-between-men-and-women.html

Question: Isn't the way the women pay different from man? Came across the ruling that speaks otherwise, please explain!
The way in which women pray is the same as the way in which men pray
Would u please tell me the proper way for women to sit, when we pray, also can you please differenciate the sitting position, from men.
Praise be to Allaah.
The way in which women pray is the same as the way in which men pray in every part of the prayer, prostration, sitting, and so on. This is based on the following evidence:
1 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Pray as you have seen me praying." Narrated by al-Bukhaari. This is addressed to both men and woman.
Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
Everything that we have said above about the way in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed applies equally to men and women. There is nothing narrated in the Sunnah which implies that women are exempted from any of that. Rather the general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), "Pray as you have seen me praying," include women too.
Sifat Salaat al-Nabi, p. 189
2 – The general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): "Women are the twin halves of men." Narrated by Abu Dawood, 204; al-Tirmidhi, 105, from the hadeeth of 'Aa'ishah. Also narrated by al-Daarimi, 764, from the hadeeth of Anas.
Al-'Ajlooni said: Ibn Qattaan said: The isnaad from 'Aa'ishah is da'eef (weak), but the isnaad from Anas is saheeh (sound).
Kashf al-Khafa', 1/248
Al-Khattaabi said: What we understand from this is: If something is said in the masculine, it is addressed to women too, except in cases where there is evidence to indicate that it applies only to women.
Some of the scholars said that a woman should not sit as a man sits (in prayer), and they quoted two da'eef (weak) hadeeths as evidence for that.
Al-Bayhaqi said:
Two da'eef hadeeth were narrated concerning that, the like of which cannot be taken as evidence.
The first is the hadeeth of 'Ata' ibn al-'Ajlaan from Abu Nadrah al-'Abdi from Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri, the companion of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), that he used to command the men to spread out their arms in their prostration and he used to tell the women to keep their arms close to their sides in their prostration. He used to tell the men to spread their left foot along the ground (and sit on it) and place the right foot upright during the tashahhud and he used to tell the women to sit, kneeling, on their heels." Then al-Bayyhaqi said: This is a munkar hadeeth.
The other is the hadeeth of Abu Mutee' al-Hakam ibn 'Abd-Allaah al-Balkhi from 'Umar ibn Dharr from Mujaahid from 'Abd-Allaah ibn 'Umar who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "When a woman sits during the prayer she should place one thigh against the other and when she prostrates she should press her stomach against her thighs, compressing herself in the most concealing manner, for Allaah looks at her and says: 'O My angels, I call you to bear witness that I have forgiven her.'" Sunan al-Bayhaqi al-Kubra, 2/222.
This hadeeth is da'eef, because it was narrated by Abu Mutee' al-Balkhi.
Ibn Hajar said:
Ibn Mu'een said: He is nothing. On one occasion he said: He is da'eef. Al-Bukhaari said: He is da'eef. Al-Nasaa'i said: He is da'eef. Lisaan al-Mizaan, 2/334.
Ibn 'Adiyy said: It is clear that Abu Mutee' is da'eef in his ahaadeeth and everything that he narrated, and for most of his narrations there are no corroborating reports.
Al-Kaamil fi Du'afa' al-Rijaal, 2/214
A third hadeeth was narrated from Yazeed ibn Abi Habeeb, saying that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) passed by two women who were praying. He said: "When you prostrate, press some of your flesh to the ground, for women are not like men in that."
This was narrated by Abu Dawood in al-Maraaseel (p. 118) and by al-Bayhaqi (2/223).
This hadeeth is mursal, which is a category of da'eef (weak).
In al-Musannaf (1/242), Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated some reports from some of the salaf which suggest that there is a difference in the way women and men sit (in prayer), but the only evidence that counts is the words of Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Then he narrated from some of the salaf that the way in which men and women pray is the same.
Al-Bukhaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Umm al-Darda' used to sit in prayer as a man sits and she was a scholarly woman.
Al-Haafiz stated in Fath al-Baari that Abu'l-Darda' had two wives, both of whom were called Umm al-Darda'. The older one was a Sahaabiyyah and the younger one was a Taabi'iyyah. He suggested that the one who was referred to here by al-Bukhaari was the younger one.
And Allaah knows best.
Answer:
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Assalaamu 'alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
Your query consists of two questions, namely:

1 Is there a difference in the salat of men and women?

2 Respond to the article that states "The way in which women pray is the same as the way in which men pray"

Hereunder, we wish to present answers to the above questions.

Is there a difference in the salat of men and women?

In Shari'a, many laws that apply to women are different to those that apply to men. Amongst these laws are the laws of salat. The variation that exists between the salat of men and women were prescribed by none other than Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam). This remained the practice of the entire ummah till this day and is also reflected in the verdicts and practices of the Sahaba and Tabi'un. The Ulama and Fuqaha of all four mazhahib, namely Hanafi, Maaliki, Shafi'ee and Hambali, have maintained the difference that exists between the salat of men and women. In the recent past, there has being a group amongst the muslims who call themselves "Ahlul Hadith", claim that the laws of salat are common to both men and women. Hence, they conclude that women should perform salat exactly as men do. They claim that the Hadith in which Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) states: "Perform salat as you see me perform salat" (Sahih Bukhari #631) is general and applies equally to both men and women. However, it should be realized that our own interpretation and logical inference of this Hadith cannot compare with the other Ahadith in which Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) clearly draws a difference between the salat of men and women, leaving aside the many verdicts and practices of Sahaba and those after them that are found in the collections of Hadith. The Muhadithun have dedicated separate chapters in their books outlining the salat of women such as Imam Ibn Abi Shayba, Imam Abdur Razaq and others.
In brief, this article will highlight the differences that exist in the salat of men and women which are substantiated from the Ahadith and the verdicts and practices of the Sahaba and those after them. Also, answers will be given to the objections raised by the "Ahlul Hadith" sect on this issue. We have not intended to gather all the Ahadith and verdicts of the Ulama on this topic. However, be assured that the relevant Ahadith and verdicts of the Ulama pertaining to this issue are mentioned with there references.
Shari'a has prescribed distinct laws for men and women in many issues pertaining to salat. Hereunder, are examples of a few:

1 Men can lead women in salat but women cannot do so.

لن يفلح قوم ولوا أمرهم امرأة
Abu Bakrah narrates that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "Never will those people succeed who have appointed a women over them" (Sahih Bukhari, vol 2, pg 1052, Qadeemi)
ولا تؤمن امرأة رجلا
Jaabir bin Abdillah (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "Know that a woman should not lead a man in salat" (Baihaqi Al-Kubra, vol 3, pg 90, Idaratut Talifaat Ashrafiyya)

2 Men should say "Subhanallah" loudly for the purpose of correcting someone in salat, while women are only allowed to clap their hands.

التسبيح للرجال والتصفيق للنساء

Abu Huraira (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "Tasbeeh is for men and clapping is for women" (Sahih Bukhari, vol 1, pg 160, Al-Mizaan)

3 Jummu'ah salat is fardh upon men but not on women.
الجمعة حق واجب على كل مسلم في جماعة إلا أربعة : عبد مملوك أو امرأة أو صبي أو مريض

Tariq bin Shihab (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "Jummu'ah in congregation is an obligatory duty upon every muslim except four: a slave, a woman, a child and one who is sick" (Mustadrak Al-Hakim-declared Sahih by Hakim and agreed by Dhahabi, vol 1, pg 425, #1062, Ilmiyya)

4 The reward of congregational salat for men is twenty seven times more than that of an individual salat. Contrary to this, the more rewarding salat of a woman is that which is most concealed and performed within the confines of her home and of her innermost living quarters.

صلاة المرأة في مخدعها أفضل من صلاتها في بيتها و صلاتها في بيتها أفضل من صلاتها في حجرتها

Abdullah bin Mas'ood (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "The salat of a woman in her makhda' (partition) is better than her salat in her hujrah (chamber); and her salat in her hujrah is better than her salat in her bait (house)" (Sahih Ibni Khuzaimah, vol 3, pg 95, Al-Maktab al-Islami)
ما صلت امرأة من صلاة أحب إلى الله من أشد مكان في بيتها ظلمة
Abdullah bin Mas'ood (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "The most beloved salat to Allah of a woman is the one that she performs in the darkest spot of her home" (Majma' Al-Zawaaid- Hafidh Haythami has classified all the narrators as authentic, vol 2, pg 35, Maktaba Al-Qudsi)

5 There is a big difference in the awrah of men and that of women in salat. Woman are required to cover their entire body including the hair and leaving only the face, hands and feet exposed, whereas this is not the requirement for the salat of men.

لا تقبل صلاة حائض إلا بخمار
Aysha (radiyallaahu anha) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "Allah does not accept the salat of a woman without a scarf" (Mustadrak Al-Hakim-declared Sahih upon the conditions of Muslim by Hakim and agreed by Dhahabi, vol 1, pg 380, #917, Ilmiyya)

6 Women are not allowed to call out the Azaan whereas men are encouraged to do so.

ليس على النساء أذان ولا إقامة
Ibn Umar (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "There is no Azaan and nor is there Iqamah upon women" (Baihaqi Al-Kubra, vol 1, pg 408, Idaratut Talifaat Ashrafiyya)

7 Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) has not allowed women to raise their hands up to the ears in salat as men do.

رأيت أم الدرداء ترفع يديها في الصلاة حذو منكبيها
Abdu Rabbihi reports: "I saw Ummu Darda raising her hands up to her shoulders in salat" (Juz Raf'i Yadain by Bukhari, pg 66, #50, Dar Ibn Hazam)
يا وائل بن حجر إذا صليت فاجعل يديك حذاء أذنيك والمرأة تجعل يديها حذاء ثدييها
Waail bin Hujar (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "O Waail bin Hujar! When you perform salat, make your hands in line of the ears; and woman should make their hands in line of their breasts" (Majma' Al-Zawaaid, vol 9, pg 374, Maktaba Al-Qudsi)

8 Woman cannot stand in the Saff (row) of men. They have to stand at the behind the men.

صليت أنا ويتيم في بيتنا خلف النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم وأمي أم سليم خلفنا

Anas (radiyallaahu anhu) reports: "An orphan and I performed salat behind Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) and my mother, Ummu Sulaim, stood behind us" (Sahih Bukhari, vol 1, pg 236, #871, Dar Al-Fikr)

9 Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) has clearly differentiated between the sajdah of men and women.

أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم مر على امرأتين تصليان فقال إذا سجدتما فضما بعض اللحم إلى الأرض فإن المرأة ليست في ذلك كالرجل

Yazid bin Abi Habib (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) once passed by two women who were performing salaat. He said: "When you make sajdah, attach your body to the ground, for indeed, women are not like men in this matter".(Maraseel of Abi Dawood, pg 118, #87, Muassasah Al-Risalah)
(The narrators in the above Hadith are reliable and not rejected-I'laau Al-Sunan, vol 3, pg 26, Idara Al-Quran)

10 Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) has clearly differentiated between the sitting posture of men and women in salat.
عن عبد الله بن عمر قال قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا جلست المرأة في الصلوة وضعت فخذها على فخذها الاخرى وإذا سجدت الصقت بطنها في فخذيها كالستر ما يكون لها وان الله تعالى ينظر إليها ويقول يا ملائكتى اشهدكم انى قد غفرت لها
Abdullah Bin Umar (radiyallaahu anhu) reports that the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: "When a women sits in salaat, she should place the thighs of one leg upon the thighs of the other and when she makes sajda, she should attach her belly to her thigh so that it is as concealing as possible, for indeed Allah Ta'ala looks at her saying: 'O my angels, I make you witness that I have indeed forgiven her". (Al-Baihaqi, vol 2, pg 223, Idara Al-Taleefaat)
(The above Hadith is reliable due to the fact that it is supported by many other Ahadith- I'laau Al-Sunan, vol 3, pg 33, Idara Al-Quran)

Verdicts and practices of Sahaba and Tabi'un with regards to a women's salat:

1
عن علي ، قال : إذا سجدت المرأة فلتحتفز ، ولتضم فخذيها
Ali (radiyallaahu anhu) said: "When a woman makes sajdah (prostrates) , she should practise ihtifaaz and keep her thighs close together" (Musannaf Ibni Abi Shayba, vol 2, pg 504, #2793, Al-Majlis al-Ilmi)
("Ihtifaaz": where a woman draws herself close together and leans onto one side by resting on their left buttocks and completely contracting themselves).
2
عن ابن عباس ؛ أنه سئل عن صلاة المرأة ؟ فقال : تجتمع وتحتفز
Ibn Abbas (radiyallaahu anhu) was asked about the salaah of a woman; he replied: "She must draw herself close together and do Ihtifaz" (Musannaf Ibni Abi Shayba, vol 2, pg 505, #2794, Al-Majlis al-Ilmi)
3
عن خالد بن اللجلاج ، قال : كن النساء يؤمرن أن يتربعن إذا جلسن في الصلاة ، ولا يجلسن جلوس الرجال على أوراكهن
Khalid bin lajlaaj reports: "Women were commanded to do tarabbu' when they sat in salah and that they should not sit like men on their buttocks" (Musannaf Ibni Abi Shayba, vol 2, pg 506, #2799, Al-Majlis al-Ilmi)
("Tarabbu'": to sit cross legged).
4
عن نافع ؛ أن صفية كانت تصلي وهي متربعة
Nafi' reports that Safiyya (radiyallaahu anha) used to perform salat while in the tarabbu' position. (Musannaf Ibni Abi Shayba, vol 2, pg 506, #2800, Al-Majlis al-Ilmi)
5
عن نافع ، قال : كن نساء ابن عمر يتربعن في الصلاة.
Nafi' reports: "The womenfolk of Ibn Umar would do tarabbu' while in salat" (Musannaf Ibni Abi Shayba, vol 2, pg 507, #2805, Al-Majlis al-Ilmi)
6
عن ابن عمر أنه سئل كيف كن النساء يصلين على عهد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال : كن يتربعن ثم أمرن أن يحتفزن
Abdullah ibn Umar was asked: how women performed their salah during the era of Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam)? He replied: "Initially they performed tarabbu'. Then they were ordered to do Ihtifaz" (Sharh Musnad Abi Hanifa, pg 191, Ilmiyya)
(The chains of narrators in the above Hadith are authentic-I'laau Al-Sunan, vol 3, pg 27, Idara Al-Quran)
Note: This Hadith clearly indicates that the practice of "Tarabbu'" was abrogated and women not allowed to sit in the "Tarabbu'" posture anymore.
7
(قال الشيخ) رحمه الله وجماع ما يفارق المرأة فيه الرجل من احكام الصلوة راجع إلى الستر وهو انها مامورة بكل ماكان استر لها
Imam Baihaqi states: "All the laws of salat in which a woman differs from a man are based on the principle of satr (concealment) . This means that the women are instructed to do all that which is most concealing for them" (Sunan Al-Kubra al-Baihaqi, vol 2, pg 222, Idarat Al-Talifaat)
The statement of this great Muhadith, Imam Baihaqi, clearly indicates that there exists a difference in the salat of men and women.
8
المراة تخالف الرجل في افعال الصلاة
Shaykh Abdul Hayy Lucknawi states: "A woman differs from a man in the actions of salat" (Al-Si'aayah, vol 2, pg 205, Suhail Academy)

Answers to the proofs and objections of the "Ahlul Hadith":

Majority of the proofs presented in this article are taken from the book authored by Shaykh Albani titled "Sifat Salaat al-Nabi". This book contains many mistakes and was refuted by many Ulama throughout the world like the late Shaykh Hamud al-Tuwayjiri (d. 1992). In fact, the late Shaykh Bin Baaz and Shaykh Salih Al-Munajjid have also given rulings contrary to that which is in the book of Shaykh Albani regarding this issue. So, it seems as though Shaykh Albani was the only scholar claiming that there is no difference between the salat of men and women. Hereunder, is our response to the article:
Article states:
"Rather the general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), "Pray as you have seen me praying," include women too"
Response:
1 The interpretation of the above Hadith provided by Shaykh Albani was never given by any scholar of the past. Not a single traditional and expert commentator of Sahih Bukhari, including the likes of Ibn Hajar Asqalani, Allamah Aini, Ibn Battaal etc had given this interpretation. It is only Shaykh Albani that has given this interpretation and logically it will be incorrect for us to follow this interpretation of Shaykh Albani.

2 It should be known that the interpretation by Shaykh Albani and his logical inference of this Hadith cannot be accepted at all, because it goes against other Ahadith in which Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) clearly draws a difference between the salat of men and women, aside from the many verdicts and practices of Sahaba and those after them that were mentioned above.
The article states:
"The general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): "Women are the twin halves of men."
Response:
1 This Hadith cannot be used to prove that women are like men in all aspects of Deen. The Ahadith above are sufficient evidence to show that men and women are not equal in all aspects of Deen. The meaning of the above Hadith is that women resemble men with regards to their body constitution. This is because Hawwa (alayhas salaam) was created from Adam (alayhis salam) and thereof the progeny of men and women began. (Ma'arif Al-Sunan, vol 1, pg 374, HM Saeed)

2 Even if we had to accept this "principle" that women are like men in all aspects, then this principle only applies to those cases where there are no proofs indicating to the contrary. In the issue of women's salat, there are many Ahadith in which Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) differentiated between the salat of both genders. Surprisingly, this principle is stated in the article but has not being implemented.

3 Not a single traditional Muhaddith and expert commentator of Hadith has interpreted the above Hadith as it is interpreted in this article. Thus, it will be illogical for us to accept this interpretation.
The article states:
The other is the hadeeth of Abu Mutee' al-Hakam ibn 'Abd-Allaah al-Balkhi from 'Umar ibn Dharr from Mujaahid from 'Abd-Allaah ibn 'Umar who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "When a woman sits during the prayer she should place one thigh against the other and when she prostrates she should press her stomach against her thighs, compressing herself in the most concealing manner, for Allaah looks at her and says: 'O My angels, I call you to bear witness that I have forgiven her.'" Sunan al-Bayhaqi al-Kubra, 2/222.
this hadeeth is da'eef, because it was narrated by Abu Mutee' al-Balkhi.
Response:
According to the principles of "Hadith" laid down by the Fuqaha and Muhadithun, this Hadith can be relied on, since it is supported by many other Ahadith and verdicts of Sahaba, who were the students of Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam). It is supported by many "Shawahid" (a term of Usulul Hadith). (I'laau Al-Sunan, vol 3, pg 33, Idara Al-Quran)
The article states:
A third hadeeth was narrated from Yazeed ibn Abi Habeeb, saying that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) passed by two women who were praying. He said: "When you prostrate, press some of your flesh to the ground, for women are not like men in that."
This was narrated by Abu Dawood in al-Maraaseel (p. 118) and by al-Bayhaqi (2/223).
This hadeeth is mursal, which is a category of da'eef (weak).
Response:
1 The issue of woman's salat is purely a fiqhi issue and has to be dealt with in the light of what the Fuqaha state. They were masters in understanding the meanings of the Ahadith as stated by the great Muhadith and student of Imam Bukhari, Imam Tirmizhi (rahimahullah) . The Fuqaha of all four mazhahib accept "Mursal" ahadith, but obviously with certain conditions (Athar Al-Hadith al-Shareef). Therefore, it will totally incorrect to blatantly state that "This hadeeth is mursal, which is a category of da'eef (weak)" indirectly inferring that this Hadith cannot be accepted.
We do not wish to go into the discussion of "Mursal" ahadith, since this is not the purpose of this article. However, all the narrators of the above Hadith are reliable and there is no reason to reject it as stated in I'laau Al-Sunan (vol 3, pg 26, Idara Al-Quran)
The article states:
In al-Musannaf (1/242), Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated some reports from some of the salaf which suggest that there is a difference in the way women and men sit (in prayer), but the only evidence that counts is the words of Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Then he narrated from some of the salaf that the way in which men and women pray is the same.
Response:
1 It is incorrect to state "but the only evidence that counts is the words of Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)".This statement infers that the statements of Tabi'un and Ulama cannot be accepted. This is totally incorrect and goes against the teachings of the Quran and the Ahadith. Allah Ta'ala mentions in the Quran:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ
"O those who believe obey Allah and obey his messenger and those in authority amongst you" (Sura Nisa: 59)
Early commentators of Quran such as Ibn Abbas, Mujahid and Hasan Basri have stated that "those in authority amongst you" refer to the Fuhaqa and Ulama (Ma'arif Al-Quran). We are commanded to follow the teachings of Tabi'un and Ulama for there teachings are based on the Quran and Ahadith. The author of this article states that "only the words of Allah and Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) are the only evidence that count", then why does he quote from the writings of Shaykh Albani etc?
The article states:
In al-Musannaf (1/242), Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated some reports from some of the salaf which suggest that there is a difference in the way women and men sit (in prayer), but the only evidence that counts is the words of Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Then he narrated from some of the salaf that the way in which men and women pray is the same.
Al-Bukhaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Umm al-Darda' used to sit in prayer as a man sits and she was a scholarly woman.
Al-Haafiz stated in Fath al-Baari that Abu'l-Darda' had two wives, both of whom were called Umm al-Darda'. The older one was a Sahaabiyyah and the younger one was a Taabi'iyyah. He suggested that the one who was referred to here by al-Bukhaari was the younger one.
Response:
1 In light of what the author of this article has written, it is incorrect for him to present the above narration as a proof. This is so, because he states that only the words of Allah and Rasulullah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) count and here he presents the action of a Tabi'iyyah as proof.
2 However, it is not sufficient enough to present the above narration regarding the action of Ummu Darda as proof, because there is a narration recorded by Imam Tahawi (rahimahullah) which states contrary to it. The Hadith is as follows:
قال رأيت أم الدرداء تصلي متربعة
Ibrahim bin Abi Ablah narrates: "I saw Ummu Darda performing salat in the Tarabbu' position" (Tuhfa Al-Akhyaar, vol 2, pg 338, Dar Balansiyya)
3 The author of the article claims that Imam Ibn Abi Shayba recorded from the Salaf that the way in which men and women performed salat was the same. This is absolutely false and incorrect accusations labelled against this great Imam. He has never mentioned this in his "Musannaf". Not a single Salaf has mentioned that a woman will perform salat as a man performs salat.
The author of this article has probably relied on the book "Sifat Salat Al-Nabi" authored by Shaykh Albani. This is because the mistake made by Shaykh Albani in his book is the same mistake made by the author of this article. Shaykh Albani claimed that Ibrahim Nakha'ee said: "A woman will do as a man does in salat". He also adds that this narration has a sahih sanad (authentic chain of narrators).
However, this was not what Ibrahim Nakha'ee said and nor was this ever his view. The correction words of Ibrahim Nakha'ee that appear in Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba are:
عن إبراهيم ، قال : تقعد المرأة في الصلاة كما يقعد الرجل
"A woman will sat as a man sits in salat" (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, #2804, Al-Majlis al-Ilmi)
Hereunder, are the interpolated words of Shaykh Albani:
كل ما تقدم من صفة صلاته صلى الله عليه وسلم يستوي فيه الرجال والنساء ولم يرد في السنة ما يقتض استثناء النساء من بعض ذلك بل إن عموم قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( صلوا كما رأيتموني أصلي ) يشملهن وهو قول إبراهيم النخعي قال :
( تفعل المرأة في الصلاة كما يفعل الرجل )
أخرجه ابن أبي شيبة ( 1 / 75 / 2 ) بسند صحيح عنه
In conclusion we would like to mention that all the Ahadith mentioned in this article are sufficient to prove that there exists a difference between the salat of men and women and it would be incorrect to claim that the salat of both genders are common. We ask Allah Ta'ala to grant us sincerity and make this humble effort a means of exposing the truth.
And Allah knows best
Wassalam
Ml. Talha Desai,
Student Darul Iftaa
Checked and Approved by:
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah